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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 14:06:56 GMT
Matt brought up the idea of EVERYONE sending away your LP's so there is a large pool of PT folks we each can pick up.
PT LP's only need to visit one building and typically give a gift. So the idea is that if we all send away our regular train LP's and make them available to our neighbors PTs that we could possibly fill our town with one building, gift giving, LPs.
I would like to propose that we send away our LPs that are asking to visit three buildings.
I believe this would increase the pool of PT LPs enough that we can have towns full of two and one building requesting LPs. I don't think sending away ALL the LPs would be necessary. However this is a theory and would need to be tested.
Can we all start sending away our LPs asking to visit three buildings?
Thoughts?
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Post by Cookie Dough on Jul 8, 2014 14:40:52 GMT
As I said its up to people, me personally, I'm sending every egg train person away. I always look at things in time and effort. If I can get from A to B in 1 motion, done. Egg train comes every 6 hours, it brings the 12 lp if it's maxed out. Now I don't know the exact number of partipants in our NH who have maxed out. So if there are 11 of us who have and 6 more who have 11 and 4 who have 10. We have 238 lp every 6 hours, divided by 21 NH players. That gives each of us 21.6 lp to pick up in a perfect world, variables depend on each players PT max pickup. In my case it's 5 so if I just do myself in this 5 lp every 2 hrs = 15 over 6 (and new batch arrives) With them it's obviously OAD so let's say out of those 15 I get 6 B&B (6 hrs per) - 30% 4 cinema (3 hrs or so) - 10% 4 diner (2.5 hrs) - 0% 1 spa (3.5 hrs) - 20% So i clear all 15 and they all go away. Now if I keep TAD people I have to serve them 2x obviously and they don't get out after 6 hours so I'm stuck with them. Most all TAD it seems either have spa or b&b mixed with another store. B&B + Diner for example = 8.5 hours per gift & I lose potentially 4 items all the way up to 10 depending on their requests. I lose time & a gift in process in same period it would require me to simply serve them 1 D & 1 B&B individually. It's all about acquisition and assets, when the asset fails to net it's worth, gotta dump it. In my case 2 gifts > 1 gift for potentially same output on items. Matty logic hope that wasn't to mattish for everyone :kiss:
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Post by riverrat939 on Jul 8, 2014 14:52:42 GMT
I started sending all of my three-building LP away a few days ago but am keeping the rest. Since my personal train can pick up only 5 atm, I need to keep some LP from the Eggspress Train. I can pick up lp every 1 1/2 hours with my PT, but that doesn't always coincide with others' free lp. If we could all send our people away at the same time, that would be great; but that's impossible since we're all on different train schedules. I like your idea, Matt, and am working to do as you have suggested. Thanks for the idea!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 14:52:53 GMT
English Matt, ENGLISH, dump the punks or what?! LMAO!
So, basically Ann was doing this all along.....
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Post by blondie52689 on Jul 8, 2014 15:16:09 GMT
Yes matt you lost me once you broke it down into percentages
My personal train can hold 7, and I know a few others also hold 7. So if we have 3 ppl holding 7...3x7 is 21 x 4 (1.3 hrs into 6) is 84 lps in 6 hrs. I think this only works everyone is always on checking both trains
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Post by vozeljp on Jul 8, 2014 15:16:33 GMT
Never thought of it that way. I always presumed, that people who goes to more buildings give rarer gifts, but i was to lazy to check that...
I'm low on almost everthig now so ill start sending people who wants to go to three buildings. Starting 20 mins from now.
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Post by karenk on Jul 8, 2014 16:37:16 GMT
My PT can pick up 6 ppl, but most of the times I can't find 6 available. The number of ppl available to be picked up won't grow if we send more people away. Since in the end, all lp that came with the expresstrain will land on your platform, waiting to be picked up. So, you may have good reasons / advantages for yourself by sending away all lp who ask for three buildings. This is esp. true if the materials given at the end are the most important to you (not reputation points, or xp, or what the lp ask for), while your stock can't serve everybody. Or if your town is often full causing you to not be able to pick up lp from others, that may be a good reason too, to send away the three building lp without looking. It is *not* a way to help each other (esp Jon's post, gives the idea that we would help each other by doing this? But the total number of available pick ups will not change at all!). For me personally, the gifts are not the most important thing. I mainly look at what they order, and at reputation points and XP, just like I used to do with truck orders basicly. The gifts are a nice bonus, though I can't see any more screws, panels, tar, blocks and even paint, URGH. Because of mostly easy orders, fair XP and high rep points, I love the Bed and Breakfast and the Spa far more than all other buildings. So I try to keep those 2 buildings occupied (if I'm playing, the last few days i haven't played much), and what I do with the rest of the lp orders depends on my stock and my mood .
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Post by blondie52689 on Jul 8, 2014 16:47:18 GMT
My way of playing the town is the same as Karens. I am looking towards more xp/rep, time and items rather than gifts
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Post by mumbajr on Jul 8, 2014 16:48:56 GMT
I've been sending peeps away for several days now. It is much less stressful not to have to produce so many darn items for the hungry lp! My town is emptier for sure, so it will take longer to level up/upgrade buildings, but I'm ok with that. I'm only able to pick up five punters every hour and a half. And, able to send 9 from the express train.
Matt also says he has a connection who accepts food items for Bem. 2:1 - we can have a food drive with our new surplus of products and see how that pans out. And perhaps get tem as well..... We all seem to need bricks.
I think it's definitely worth a try!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 18:06:56 GMT
My PT can pick up 6 ppl, but most of the times I can't find 6 available. The number of ppl available to be picked up won't grow if we send more people away. Since in the end, all lp that came with the expresstrain will land on your platform, waiting to be picked up. So, you may have good reasons / advantages for yourself by sending away all lp who ask for three buildings. This is esp. true if the materials given at the end are the most important to you (not reputation points, or xp, or what the lp ask for), while your stock can't serve everybody. Or if your town is often full causing you to not be able to pick up lp from others, that may be a good reason too, to send away the three building lp without looking. It is *not* a way to help each other (esp Jon's post, gives the idea that we would help each other by doing this? But the total number of available pick ups will not change at all!). For me personally, the gifts are not the most important thing. I mainly look at what they order, and at reputation points and XP, just like I used to do with truck orders basicly. The gifts are a nice bonus, though I can't see any more screws, panels, tar, blocks and even paint, URGH. Because of mostly easy orders, fair XP and high rep points, I love the Bed and Breakfast and the Spa far more than all other buildings. So I try to keep those 2 buildings occupied (if I'm playing, the last few days i haven't played much), and what I do with the rest of the lp orders depends on my stock and my mood . Karen, your first statement is that you can't find six LPs to pick up. If my eggspress train comes by and I tell them to all take a hike, I will have 12 LPs for you to pick from. Your third statement is that it is not a way to help each other? The train comes every six hours and drops off 12 LPs I will tell thanks but no thanks. Every three hours I can go get six LPs from my neighbors. So, I can go get 12 LPs in the same amount of time the Eggspress train comes. Logically, I would send my LPs from my train away creating 12 LPs for y'all to pick up. I would go get 12 LPs within those six hours from you guys. I will use three people as an example, in no particular order, of course, LOL! Matt
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KarenMatt's eggspress comes and he tells twelve LPs to take a hike. Jon's eggspress comes and he tells twelve LPs to take a hike. Karen's eggspress comes and she tells twelve LPs to take a hike. Matt uses the PT and goes to Jon and to get six LPs, three hours or so later, Matt goes to Karen and picks up six LPs. Jon uses the PT and goes to Matt and to get six LPs, three hours or so later, jon goes to Karen and picks up six LPs Karen uses the PT and goes to Jon and to get six LPs, three hours or so later, Karen goes to Matt and picks up six LPs Six hours have passed and the eggspress is back again dropping off 12 more LPs we naturally tell, thanks but no thanks. wash, rinse, repeat Right? Did we gain any LPs, no, we swapped 12 for 12 but we swapped LPs that were asking for two and three buildings before giving a gift for LPs that only need to visit ONE building to give a gift.
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Post by karenk on Jul 8, 2014 20:35:57 GMT
But Jon, we always do this 'swapping'. The only difference is if either one of my guests is on the platform waiting for another train within seconds after arriving, or after a few hours, or after many hours. But no matter how I treat the punter, (s)he will end up on my platform waiting for another player to pick them up.
I prefer to send away empty handed a punter who only want cinema but asks for a cherry popsicle and a chocolate bar, than sending off a punter who wants to be served in 3 buildings, but I can earn nice XP and Ref Points by serving them a muffin in the Bed and Breakfast. For the team, it doesn't make a difference. this punter will become available for pick up, like all express train punters do, and then ofcourse asks for only 1 building.
The main reason why we, as a group, dont have that many pick up punters is that we dont process that many express train punters. Because, all express train punters do become pick ups (correct?). So as a group we just don't play that much. I'm guilty as charged...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 20:53:36 GMT
Oh it is true that your punters will end up there anyway, no matter if you put them there right away or "service" them, LMAO! However, I can pick up six and if you only have two or three waiting, I have to decided if I want to waste the missed opportunity or move on to someone with the six I can pick up.
I guess it is a strategy of quantity over quality too. You are right that in order for this to work, you'd have to feed them. Six in the cinema, you want the gift, you gotta feed'em.
However, Matt's numbers are correct. If you are looking to maximize your gifts and for that matter, maximize your time spent, this is the way.
A punter wanting to visit the B&B, Spa and Diner is going to take all day. If you sent that jerk away and replaced him with a PT pick-up that wants just the B&B (worse case scenario) and will surely give you a gift, than this is your best method.
If I can get my PT to come every two hours, next upgrade, than I can get three sets of LPs from my neighbors. I could theoretically, pick up 18 LPs with my PT in the same time frame as the eggspress trains 12 LPs every six hours. However, you're right that my neighbors do not have the optimum 6 LPs to be picked up.
If my neighbors were to send away the three building LPs, they would "Likely" have average or four LPs on their platform. I could pick up four LPs every two hours and reach that same goal of 12 LPs picked up in six hours. This is why I suggested JUST the three building LPs. You'll need the two building LPs for filler.
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Post by Dolphindreams on Jul 9, 2014 9:38:07 GMT
totally lost and leaving on holidays as from Friday.. but I will be more than happy to see your results when come back and join you all
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Post by blondie52689 on Jul 9, 2014 17:15:51 GMT
have a fun holiday jen
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Post by lolamcmurphy on Jul 10, 2014 23:02:59 GMT
I am with Jenny! I have no clue what you are talking about other than not serving the eggpress train punters!! If somebody could explain the reasoning of booting these peeps in basic English 101 and not advanced Calculus, I would be more than happy to offer my two cents!! Meaning, can we explain in 3 sentences!! LOL!!!
Happy Holiday Jenn!!!
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Post by Dolphindreams on Jul 11, 2014 10:50:23 GMT
Lola... when you got your Basic English 1.0 please ensure to send me your notes!!!
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Post by Cookie Dough on Jul 11, 2014 13:41:43 GMT
I am with Jenny! I have no clue what you are talking about other than not serving the eggpress train punters!! If somebody could explain the reasoning of booting these peeps in basic English 101 and not advanced Calculus, I would be more than happy to offer my two cents!! Meaning, can we explain in 3 sentences!! LOL!!! Happy Holiday Jenn!!! Say Jon, me, Karen, Cindy, Jenny, you, Ann, Peter join a "team" of sending egg people away. If we all have 12 coming that is 96 people every 6 hours Us 8 go to each other's towns & pickup 5-8 lp each every 1.5-2hrs on our pt. We service their 1 request and get gift. End result you save food products, and get 15-24 gifts every 6 hours. Opposed to servicing lp with 2-3 store requests. 1 lp with 3 stores = 1 gift []<>[] 3 lp with 1 store = 3 gifts. Hypothetically same total products given out but +2 gifts in return.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 13:52:41 GMT
Matt, that is seven sentences and a run-on sentence..... fail!
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Post by Cookie Dough on Jul 11, 2014 15:04:51 GMT
Don't go gettin all that fancy smancy book learnin on me! I have no clue how long a sentence is, so I'm gonna say scrunch some of that together and call it 3 I guess I need Karen to edjimicate me. #homeschooltime
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Post by blondie52689 on Jul 12, 2014 16:00:10 GMT
Still don't get it. Plus some people in our chat house aren't maxed out at 12 and don't play regularly and may see that someone has 6 ppl available and take them eventhough they themselves aren't part of the LP team
I send ppl away that have hard orders. I like ppl with 3 buildings bc I like the xp/rep. But even if I keep someone with 3 buildings, service 2 of them and the third one wants hard stuff I kick him out
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